Dr. KRS Murthy’s Insightful Perspectives on Infinity and its Fundamental Concepts

Many mathematicians, physicists, philosophers, Christian theologians, and most importantly the ancient vEdic wisdom from sages/Rshis (mahaa Rshi’s) have all addressed it.

However, the real basic perspectives are missing. I am addressing them here. These are only pointers in the form of bullets. However, I will be glad to elaborate and discuss at depth in webinars and conferences.

Infinity is perceived differently by different humans, scholars of different levels and types, and they are hugely different from each other. The concept and understanding also changed from the animals, the early viruses and bacteria, insects, the apes, the early humans, different stages of continually modernizing humans.

Even the modern humans, insightful thinkers and those from different parts of the globe had different levels of intellect. The vagabond cultures of the middle east, the peoples of Africa, South America, the North America, many islands, the Australian aborigines and those of NZ, different islanders, prechristian era nomads, and desert dwellers had only subsistent cultures, animal herders, those in these different regions of the world who waged wars very frequently, including greeks, romans, and egyptians lacked the intellect, and no knowledge of sciences, including mathematics, structured intellectual faculties to even fathom advanced mathematics, theory of numbers, and even the basic decimal number systems. The Roman number system was so inherently weak that they could not easily express numbers above a few thousands, not able to manipulate large numbers.

The decimal number system was known to ancient vedic intellectuals, who we incorrectly term as Indians, Hindus and Hindustanis. Vedic civilizations were extremely advanced in theology, philosophy, mathematics, sciences, engineering, and poetic verses with very advanced meters. The decimal number system was invented based on a variety of astronomy, planetary movements and other movements of the heavenly bodies, as seen from the earth. The advanced observation-based and astronomical calculations had the predictive power of the stars, star constellations, the planets and their satellites.

The different epics poetry treasures of the prevedic and post vedic periods mention the different star constellations, their positions, and movements when describing births, marriages, wars, major meeting of the personalities, and even deaths of the history of the poetic epics. These have been verified based on the NASA astronomical software by time regression features of the NASA software applications. The understandings and insights of the vedic wisdom cultures and prevedic periods go back to thousands, ten thousands and 100s of thousands.

Interestingly, the abrahamic cultures to include the Islamic, the Chistian, prechristian, the jewish cultures had no clue or any sense of time beyond 4000 BC, as their text mention that the universe was created only around 4000 BC, and that the “world” and creation itself was done in only one week!

My purpose is not to denigrate other religions and associated cultures, but only to demonstrate that the concept of infinity was limited to few thousands even for the cultures, religions and civilizations that tout of greatness.

Not only the vedic wisdom, but even later religious thoughts and eminence of the Jains, an offshoot of the same roots of the vedic eminence, described numbers far beyond the limited and stunted understanding of the abrahamic cultures.

Humans fathom and develop mathematical concepts, language, culture, scientific thoughts only as they grow up from birth, through infant months, baby years, boyhood and girlhood, preteen, teen and later years. Those who take up advanced mathematics, physics, theology, logic, philosophy, astronomy, and cosmology gather and evolve to understand the concept of infinity. This applies to people all continents, countries and cultures.

Even the highly educated scholars in mathematics and sciences think one could manipulate numbers along with infinity. Many think infinity is nothing more than any number or quantity divided by zero is infinity, and then attempt to include infinity in their equations, and doing simple arithmetic four function manipulations. They try to add and subtract, multiply and divide infinity with other finite numbers. They even try to add, subtract, multiply and divide infinity with infinity, and even give different names like countable infinity and uncountable infinity.

Many famous mathematicians, physicists and other scientists have delved into playing with and also describing the infinity concepts.

You may like to read the following previous works:

David Herbert’s popular Hotel Room paradox

Gelileo’s Paradox

Zeno’s Paradox

Russell-Zermelo's Paradox

Kurt Gödel's incompleteness theorems

Vedic angle on the concept of infinity

Here is the well known shloka in Sanskrit (samskRtam):

NOTE: skR sound in samskRtam is one single letter and NOT three letters and also pronounced as one letter. Here R is actually an oval letter, NOT a consonant, even though even the greatest scholars of Sanskrit mispronounce it. In Sanskrit, the vowels are called “svaras”. R is one of the svaras. The svaras in Sanskrit and Sanskrit derived languages of India are pronounced without using the tongue, the upper palette and the lips. It is pronounced in the throat, and thus the Sanskrit vowels are called “kanThastya” where the word kanTha is the throat, and kanThastya means throat based or rooted in the kanTha; kanTha = throat.

ॐ पूर्णमदः पूर्णमिदं पूर्णात्पूर्णमुदच्यते ।

पूर्णस्य पूर्णमादाय पूर्णमेवावशिष्यते ॥

ॐ शान्तिः शान्तिः शान्तिः ॥

Om Puurnnam-Adah Puurnnam-Idam Puurnnaat-Puurnnam-Udacyate |

Puurnnasya Puurnnam-Aadaaya Puurnnam-Eva-Avashissyate ||

Om Shaantih Shaantih Shaantih ||

Meaning:

1: Om, That (Outer World) is Purna (Full with Divine Consciousness); This (Inner World) is also Purna (Full with Divine Consciousness); From Purna is manifested Purna (From the Fullness of Divine Consciousness the World is manifested),

2: Taking Purna from Purna, Purna indeed remains (Because Divine Consciousness is Non-Dual and Infinite),

3: Om, Peace, Peace, Peace

In this example, the concept is of the “whole” = pooNa, meaning complete and whole by itself. Notice that the capital N is used to refer to a sound different from the n sound. The tongue is folded and curled into the upper part of the mouth and released with tension to produce the sound, as otherwise the n is produced without such curled tongue up against the upper part of the mouth.

The Sanskrit shloka conveys the following meaning:

The “Whole” = poorNa = purNa contains everything; if you add anything to it, it still remains the whole; if you subtract anything, it still remains the whole, any operation on it does not change it, as it still remains a whole. Actually, it should be thought of as “The Whole, and the only Whole, and there is nothing else, it is unchanging, unalterable.

This chant is a Shanti mantra (peace invocation) and appears primarily in Isha Upanishad (Ishopanishad) or many times called Ishavasya. The Isha Upanishad (Devanagari: ईशोपनिषद् IAST īśopaniṣad) is one of the shortest Upanishads, embedded as the final chapter (adhyāya) of the Shukla Yajurveda. It is a Mukhya (primary, principal) Upanishad, and is known in two recensions, called Kanva (Veda Shaakha Kanva = VSK) and Madhyandina (Veda Shaakha Madhyandina = VSM). These Upanishads are part of the Yajurveda, one of the four vedas: RgvEda, yajuRvEda, saama vEda, atharva vEda) Each of the four vedas have associated additional descriptive texts to provide the philosophical and spiritual connotations.

Upanishad = upa + nishad, where it refers learning or getting tutored by close proximity with the teacher, also similar to a private tutor concept where the student and only few other students get tutored by a tutor type teacher called upadhyaya = upa + adhyaaya. Upa = close proximity; adhyaaya (andhyayana = abstract noun version or derivative of adhyaaya

Each of the four vEdas have associated poetry and knowledge to drive home the essence of the particular vEda in illustrative poetry, stories, and other explanatory compendiums. The subsidiary or associated knowledge base for each of the four vEdas are named, mentioning and crediting the Rshi or sage who composed it.

The previously existing vedic knowledge and wisdom were collated, structured and “divided” or organized into the four vEdas = chaturvEda = chatur + vEda, all under the direction of a mahaRshi of knowledge and wisdom contributions, who was also a composer of the world’s great literature called mahaa bhaarata, bhagavadgeeta, 18 puraaNaas, and many other contributions. He was a genius at birth. His birth name given his parents was kRShNa = normally written as Krishna. This Krishna is different from the character in the story of mahaa bhaarata. The word kRShNa means someone superlatively attractive, or someone with a magnetic looks and personality. This sage kRShNa also called kEShaNa dvaipaayana as he was born on an island, an island in a large river. dveepa = island. The word aayana means who came or incarnated. After he led and managed, plus tutored and guided many both men and women scholars to compose the vEdas and all associated texts, by dividing the wisdom (vEda = wisdom) into four parts, he got to be called vEda vyaasa; vyaasa = divider; vyaasa is also the diagonal that cuts a circle into half, or in general divides.

Various Concepts of Infinity, especially from vEdic wisdom

Infinity is normally used for natural numbers in mathematics and sciences. However, in the vEdic knowledge corpus, infinity is used for various parameters and measures; actually “immeasurable” is the concept. Here are some example infinity concepts in the vEdic sources:

Time Dimension:

Anaadi = an + aadi = Beginningless; with no beginning.
Ananta = an + anta = Endless; no end.

Measurability, Evaluability, In ability to Weigh

Atulya = a + tulya = Unmeasurable, Unevaluatable, Unweighable

Limit:

Amita = a + mita = Limitless, without any limit

Imaginability, Unthinkability

Achintya = a + chintya

Second to None, Nothing like it anyplace or anywhere or anytime

Advaya = a + dvaya = Not a second to anything, anyone or any place

Without Death

Amara = a + mara; without death, non perishable; mR is the earth in general usage, but mR includes all matter in all parts of the universe.

The Concept of the bRhma = brahma

Etymology: bRh = bruh = also written as brih is the phonological root single letter, where R is an owell not consonant.; bRh is a single letter, not a word. bRh + ma = bRhma = brahma.

bRh is the concept of being immensely big. The whole universe creation is called bRhma. The seed for the creation is called bRhmaanDa = bRhma + anda. The term anda refers to a seed. Therefore bRhmaanDa refers to the seed that has given rise to the big bang and ultimately the universe as we perceive it. The universe is infinite or whole.

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